[Mesphinal Atinias =P]

List of things to change on WoC

Voting number:5 top 100 sites
and not two or three. this way we can advertise more.

Vote rewards need to be changed drastically rather then having
a set list. we need to have an option where one can
obtain items of a set level as in capping the list of
items one could receive for vote points at say 231 or
so. and those said higher items being set at a higher amount of vote points.
so say an item level uuduar sword, two-hander, is 231, as such its 105 vote points.
This sort of vote system also encourages people to vote more frequently, as their
receiving much greater compensation for voting.
That;s... a major given.

Now you may be pissed off over these ideas. and your idea of archimonde being
a blitz-like server.
If you really want a blitz like
server do what molten does and make a 3x server
no donate/ no vote items based server.
I wouldn't suggest making this how it is now but later.
Also the idea of 10x sounds great on Archimonde. but
for returning players and those coming, seeing a 20x
for a fixed amount of time may help bring more people
and thus bring up the population. fixed as in a couple months probably
and later we could possibly implement a new 10x server or drop Archimonde to a 10x
and host a 20x server.
Those playing private servers often times look more for a faster means of leveling,
it appeals more to the masses of players coming in, and could only benefit us. as for future realms
we could take polls and see what the players themselves want rather then what the admins or server
owners believe is best. that way we stick to the idea that " The customer is always right".
thus helping the server more.

If you need a good reference for a vote store set up go onto www.molten-wow.com
and see how theirs works. Not sure how much time or effort would be needed to make one
similar, but it, would help us out greatly as well.

As far as donations go, our donation list is small
and not doing so well.

I'd offer packages for set items.

and promos for toons set at level 55 with blues for like five bucks.

70 with t7 for like 15

instant level 80 for like 10 bucks.
(excluding first time promo for joining the server. )

etc, just some simple ideas. nothing too serious.

any ICC wep around ten bucks, any ICC heroic wep at
about 12 or 15 bucks, or any season 8 pvp wep around
12.

Tier sets starting at a certain price,
tier sets also including, every slot filled but weapon
slots.
Much like immortal wow, were a lot of WoC players have
gone to, that and molten.

so say a t10 set was at 65 bucks, they then receive any
pieces of armor of a t10 set, or equivalent, or
they can choose to get the season eight pvp set aka
wrathful gladiators. their choice of armor and such is
their call, and upon purchase they need to compile
a list of the gear, the rings and trinkets desired.
Once the gear is approved that it belongs in that item level
/tier, the gm will then credit said account with items.
( only difference between this and immortal is this package
won't include weapons either. thus allowing more profit
to come in)

Another thing, we need a promo to bring about more
players, for those coming into the server, now offering
a level 80 promo for their first toon on archimonde
would help bring about its standings, possibly offering
a standard of 3000 g.s in items as well to help them
along in raiding. This would get them to want to join, and to bring others as well.
This promo would be designated to a one time thing on one character class
of their choice for that one I.P address. Deleting the toon, will not allow them to
use the promo again, as they've used it once.

For the return of kj players, I believe they should be
compensated based upon their account info, a gm or admin
can easily view said players account and see how many
toons the player had on the old server. At one time a transfer of all
said toons was offered. Only to be smashed months later.
so as a means to make up for it, I believe the returning
kj player asking for compensation have an entitlement to
something. And we as a server, who once promised said
thing, should be willing to oblige to up our population
our standing, and our rank in whole. Rather then saying
heres a level seventy toon, thanks for playing all that time with us,
hope you stick around now. Not much motivation or compensation as a means
to influence one to stay, to continue said past support.

A gm would view a request made from a returning kj
player , look upon said users request, their account
and Ip, see how many toons he had at that time, and
compensate him the toons and their levels and at-least
a minimum of a 2k-3k gearscore. Same class of toons,
to make it simpler. for those on menethil, and those who donated for
elite donator status, they'd be given their class characters back and
said elite donator status on the toon they had once had it on.
This would also bring about the population and desire of past menethil players
to return, which also was a great aide in keeping WoC up in funds.
Thus.. making everything better off.

I have a ton more ideas, and I was on this server
for near 2 1/2 years, but obviously shits not being done
and what is isn't helping. The populations dropping,
the ranks dropping, and the over all, once well known
server has literally taken a shit. It makes me sad, yeah
I might have messed up a couple times on here, but I still stuck
around up till I noticed things weren't getting much
better.

So this is some minor input on some things that could
or couldn't, possibly be done to help aid the server
and bring it back up. you might or might not like them.
but truthfully the way it's going, it couldn't hurt.

I seriously want this server to continue and become
the place I use to love so much, these days, this
games just one stress wracked thing. nothing like
the old kj times. There's a lot more I could say to
improve us, or help out players. but I'll save it
for another time.

Anyways, with regards,
Mesphinal

[Ashley]

u've got some gud ideas there

[Mesphinal Atinias =P]

Hoping Satan, Weezus, Bruin and the others agree. F
airly certain Terra will just *shrug* and say whatever, but I am attempting to help this server.
I don't want to see it die.

[Fanatika]

I agree that your ideas are good, and that you have good intentions but , if everything can be bought it kinda takes away the "blizzlike" exp , doesn't it ? And yea we are in lack of new instances but still , raiding for gear is like half of the game. I mean if ppl start walking around with ICC lvl weps/gear , and we have like only naxx open , it will take the fun away won't it ? >.>

[HellCrucifix]

Think you are takeing the donation side a bit far, people with money just to toss out the window will have no skill and have epic gear kinda defeats the purpose of haveing it a "Blizz- like" server if you can just buy the gear... But some of your idea's are good just dont go to insane with the voteing and donateing.

Blake.

[akka]

Great ideas, although i personally feel that being able to vote for anything above naxx10 standards at the moment would defeat the point of raiding altogether since its pretty much the only raid we have at the moment, besides onyxia.

Tip: The extremely long wall of text is kinda a pain to read for most people. Format it with headers and colored text for emphasis on the points you really want to bring across?

Don't click if you're one of those people who can't take any criticism towards the server.

Spoiler

IMHO, you'd be lucky if anyone with the power to implement any of your ideas even reads this, seeing how the 13 page long thread about new instances hardly got any serious replies from the higher-ups. Not to bring this shit over from the other thread but, if they're taking this long to introduce content thats already available on trinity, I'd love to see how anything else is going to be done.

[Vengyrpt]

"Make Archi as Za" Think is more fitting as title

Also nearly forgot 1 thing. When they were about to open the store, Terra asked for suggestions. I said "ulduar recipes could nice" but he answered well "No. Content that cant be obtained ingame shouldn't be added to vote/donate store"
So ye

[Arklious]

The adding more vote sites for advertisement is mainly Satan's job, and I heard he isn't gonna plan on doing that unless we do better on the one we're on already (XtremeTop100).

[Mesphinal Atinias =P]

the fact is the " Blizzlike server" isn't necessarily blitz like its a 10x based server if you really wanted a blitz we'd host a 5x or 3x and as it stands the main support ow WoC's income is based off of zulaman etc. so the new vote system/donate system would only help the server. yes nax is the only thing up atm however, ,there's a large list of backed up updates that have yet to be applied to the server even though their written, ,or we have the means to update up to where we should be but it hasn't occurred.

you might not like that idea entirely and it may take some of the "fun" aspects from the game, raiding for gear is a given, but even on any retail based game, a g.s of 3k is the minimum for getting into any heroic based dungeoun even some normal versons, as most prefer 3500 and up for most heroics.

as it stands the servers population is dying, and they need something to promote bringing more players rather then having what they have going on, to continue going as it has. Backing its ass up and updating to where it should is a given, at one time you couldn't even do nax, now your stuck on it, I'm sure they have the updates on hand, but some-one or something is possibly preventing them from occurring.

But at the rate in which this is going, their being beaten out by a number of many other servers, who shouldn't even be able to beat out this server. all because their giving better promo's etc to bring in players. and if you want a higher rank within the top 100 I suggest changing the number of top 100 sites, and seriously adding a bigger vote store base, so once someone has bought their only gear option, being T7 now, they wont stop voting, cause they'll have more initiative to pull their heads out to get some better gear, items, or w/e it is they need atm.

You might not like some of these ideas, but if things dont change a good number of players left, on the 3. based servers are going to take off. The fact that we've been on 3.3.3 and Trail of the crusader isn't up is really sad that Obsidian sanctum, is probably still bugged. Nax is the only ten man up etc.

anyways for the time, being these suggestions are to better the server to try to kee,p ,the player base thats here and also to try to bring in a larger number of players. helping out the server overall, and if one does want a propper blitzlike, realm, I suggest making a new one later on. as it stands 10x isn't so blitzlike compared to other servers "Blitzlike" realms like moltens 3x. which in a matter of a week filled up to 3k players.

just saying.

[Mesphinal Atinias =P]

and truthfully I've heard terra talk about a lot of shit and a lot of thing's he intends to do, but I've yet to see any major changes to anything other then the website.
A lack of updates and over all server maintenance is whats occurring, I don't know if he has the updates all stored away, or if they've yet to be written. For all I know he could be happily working on a different private server for some other game, who knows. all I know is, this servers being ignored to the point, or being put of to the point of, causing a downward spiral to where it's just going to continue loosing funding and its player base to keep it up.

[Herbye]

I only read ur first post Mesph but that is hardly a successful strategy considering what is open on Archimonde. Also if you have noticed the gear donation has greatly fucked up Molten WoW, I would not like to see Archi become what Molten has. Sorry but not a fan of "5k gs+ for Naxxrammas and that is what will happen if WoC introduces donations of the likes.

As far as weapons from current instances - I really dislike the idea of being able to obtain a weapon of such itemLevel over 10 days of voting.

And regarding PvP gear - the situation on Archi would pretty much force you to buy the pvp gear if you want it due to it being quite hard to fully get since Archis PvP is to say the least - dead.

As others said earlier in this topic - there is some good ideas and some things that could be implemented with a bit of changing regarding our realms situation.

[Ashley]

tbh i agree with akka since watever we post here doesn't really matter....lets wait for the staff to finish wat they r doing or utleast giv us some news....all we hav been hearing for the last six months is...erm SOON :< i know you people r doing your best to giv us new updates but your best isn't gud enough sorry but it had to be said

[Spritebringer]

Promo Idea is good. Voting/donating for gear?

Umad?

[cazper]

we need pvp on this realm too. its not dead, its just that there's nobody online... and when i come online nobody likes me.

also herbye most people who're playing archi right now are not retards. nobody will like a person saying 5k+ gs for naxx. we already give ppl enough crap "LOL NAXX @ 3.3.5 LOLOL," and i'm sure gearscore won't be an issue with the current players. most of the know that skill outweighs gear anyday.

also... i don't think t10 should be offered without ICC being available. that's kind of silly, and doesn't make any sense. if all you got is ulduar out atm, only offer ulduar lvl items. kinda silly if you have t10 and you think ur the shit clearing ulduar. i know hard mode ulduar is still considered kinda cool on retail, but here it doesn't make sense since nobody here except a few who've played retail have ever done ICC (and its not hard tbh).

[Ashley]

pvp won't happen unless we hav the pop for it...

[Herbye]

You really need quite a big population otherwise people r gnna all get mad at eachother since almost everyone on Archi knows everyone lol. Need some randoms know what im sayin?

And Voting/donating for pvp gear CERTAINLY won't make it anymore attractive due to (as stated in above post of mine) the fact PvP gear is quite hard to obtain since there is very few PvP situations going on - if theres donators with PvP gear how are the "less-geared" people supposed to get it if donators dominate arena/bgs?

[cazper]

WTB BLOODFANGX TBH

he'll save us for sure

[TheSalesman]

I have to agree with akka's spoiler.
No amount of changes in the voting/donating system or any kind of advertising will help Archie in the long run unless we get the updates more frequently.
"If you build it, they will come!"

[Bruin]

Some good ideas, but as Terra is away and kyo is MIA ....

I like a few of the ideas, but its Terra that impliments the changes on the live realm and applies updates to it. So me commenting anyfuther is null/void

[joerivanett]

I bet kyo will be popping out of some japanese karaoke bar soon